California Careers With Freddy Cochran How To Become a Pilot



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there are thousands of careers in California but how are we supposed to know which is the right career for us before to spend 40 to 50 hours a week over 10,000 hours a year we're going to want to choose a career that we're best at one that we love and with the average American changing their jobs up to seven times during a lifetime finding the right rear as soon as possible contribute to better help and help you live a richer and fuller life the right career is out there waiting for you and I'm going to help you find it I'm Freddie Cochran welcome to California careers welcome to another edition to California careers I'm Freddie Cochran your host we're here in torrance california at south bay aviation center today today we have a very cool career for you airline pilot what a fabulous career I can't wait to see how it's done let's go check it out good morning brandon morning thank you for joining us today appreciate that we're here to teach young people high school students college students whomever how to become a pilot now what exactly is a pilot can you expand on that are there different types of pilots Brandon or there is the the easy one is you know the basic baseline pilot is a private pilot and this is someone who just wants to learn to fly essentially and fly on their own time what you can get is you can there's two types there's two routes you can get a part 141 or part 61 school all that means is the regulations required to get your license while we hear is how baby ation is is a part 61 school so this is your run of the mill and a flight school what we do is we just have an F a minimum of 40 hours of flight time that's when the engine starts to win the engine stops you also have to do a written exam later on in the course and then you need to take a practical exam with an FA examiner that's pretty standard across the board no matter where you go that's in the regulations when you need part 141 school is actually where I started and I was actually with Delta Connection Academy I went to it in Massachusetts but they have since closed that base another down in Florida but it's essentially a FA authorized syllabus so it's very similar to what we do here but the FA has actually approved their particular force ok let me interrupt you so to become a private pilot you're authorized to fly to use these little planes out here they're called Cessnas any single engine land airplane any single in here at ok self aviation we are a Cessna Pilot center so we focus primarily on the Cessna of course we have is designed around assessment it's just kind of Cessnas designed trainer ok but there's other aircraft such as Piper or like Alaris really do some of the planes have two engines in them or more is that yeah you can have single engine or multi engine ok also can have single engine land or single it and see so we have some seaplanes versus things that land here at an airport what's the biggest plane you can fly for a length is concerned and all those times I can fly anything that has under i believe it's like ten passengers ten passengers a weight of less than 12,500 pounds very cool ok so now if I want to become revolve in to say a commercial pilot for United or something rip what training additional training would you need for that for an airline career you would probably want to go to 141 school cuz they're more that's designed for that uh part 141 school like Delta Connection Academy ok or ATP is a local one and it's just a matter of getting the training so you're still going to start you off with your private that's the baseline for anyone they're going to get you probably your instrument rating which is an add-on so that so you can fly in whether such as today Wow very cool they make it to your commercial then after that it's a matter of building hours in time and then you need a multi-engine as well so this is where you start regardless of your regardless where you want to go you're going to set as a private pilot tell us about the education do you need to go to college for this or is there a private type of schooling mom you do not for an airline a bachelor's degree i'm pretty sure is going to be required for the actual airline portion of it but to get your licenses up to that point the only education you need is really the flight okay and so you have a bachelor's degree I do have vegetables yes okay any major we need to focus on or is it pretty much I personally got mine in aviation science Wow I was lucky that my school actually offered a flight program but not every school does that so I was fortunate enough to go through college with a flight program but as far as any bachelor degree will work now can I come out of high school and just start some private type of education to be eligible to sit for the exam of the FAA or as college require know if you want you can start actually at any age to start building time neh neh can I get a license at any age and get out of get a license yet to be 17 17 okay so low you have to be 16 wow so you know most students solo ad about the probably 15 hour mark okay and that's usually when they first solo tell us about let's say tell us a little bit expand a little bit more on the school that prepares you for the exam to get your license to fly what what type of schooling do we need tell us about post college education posts college just in general towards the flight training yeah it's kind of the same amount of high school you know you're just if it's let's say you went to college for like a business degree I'm even get any flight training whatsoever then you come out of business and you're like I don't want to fly a desk around I want to fly an airplane so what you can do is just go to any flight school I depart 141 or or one part 61 okay and then just start like you would normally and say hey I want to learn to fly is that written or is that on hands type of education or it's a little bit about you know we're more of a kind of a one-on-one hands-on learning experience okay some flight schools like the 141 is going to have a dedicated ground school first where you're going to be in kind of a classroom environment okay and it's like one instructor maybe ten students but either way it's the same you are learning about the aircraft how long does that process take the post but the training becomes exclusively a pilot how long is that truck you got your private license you're looking on average is 85 hours nationally okay hours that's not bad correct for a part 141 school it's usually a little bit lower because they're generally more structured okay so it brings it down probably maybe I got mine always 60s so do you guys offer that education here and where do we go to get that we do you know we offer here yeah we have come through a part 61 school like I said that's minimum is 40 hours the average is 85 here at South Bay our average is usually around 75 okay so we have a dedicated student kit that we say tell us about the exam now to pass that suckers out a one-day type of just written or is it hands-on oral what what is up with the exam there's two exams for a private life you need to have a written exam first it's 60 questions they are hundred questions and they give you two and a half hours ticket multi choice it's a multi choice question there is prep materials for that it actually has all the questions and the answers in it so a lot of people just memorize it um but after that you have to take a your practical test includes both an oral exam and a flight exam okay and that usually takes around four to five hours and the governing body that provides that exam or that provides the license is the FAA the FAA's mission federal aviation administration good deal and okay so that license once you get the license is an ongoing does it ever expire you have to do ongoing educated licensed never expires your currency does I mean by that is that as a pilot you have to fly pretty consistently otherwise you can start forgetting things now it's not the end of the world if you forget things because every two years you need to have on something called a biennial flight review okay and what this is it's just it's essentially a lesson with an instructor where they won our ground when our flight is the minimum okay I'm depending on how often you fly that might be more might be a little maybe lon okay but it's just a matter of getting you back up to speed they sign your logbook saying you are good to go and then you have another two years before your currency expires again okay so you're a flight instructor is that right so tell us about that you you can you provide flight training for students who want to become you okay what if I'm just want to come on you know Christmas Day or Easter Sunday with my family and go for a ride do you guys provide that service or what we have is something called the demonstration flight it's kind of our intro into the flight training side of things so what we do is you can fly for 30 minutes and it's essentially you know we the instructor will do to take up cleaning okay and then once we're in the air will kind of hand it off to you and so scary basics of how to you know turn climb to send awesome very basic and then we come back in and then hopefully that will spark your interest in the aviation community and then we go from there let's switch gears for a minute walk us through a typical day as a pilot sure some as a flight instructor you know my typical day is figuring out first of all the weather so a day like today I have to find out is the flight even possible so once I know the weather then I'll be my student and then we will decide how to proceed now they're not going to not know what their lesson is excuse the double negative but they will always come in with some expectation of what we're going to be doing that day I might say hey today we're going to do pattern which means we're going to fly in the traffic pattern and practice our takeoff and landings okay that's a pretty big step because people need to know that Elaine there's a saying take officer optional and landings are mandatory that's why we're practicing complainings or let's say you know I have student later today who's going to be doing cross country stuff so he'll come in we'll do a little bit of groundwork first we're going to talk about his flight plan how what airport are you going to and how are you going to get there then there's a nav log navigation log where they will plot all their courses and I have to double check that make sure that we're not going to fly opposite direction that we're supposed to go okay and then if all that looks good we go pre flight the plane and make sure the plane is good and then when both my pilot and plane are good we actually go and fly that lesson you know it lets up let me back up thank you for making the distinction you're a flight instructor correct however you're also a pilot but that's actually two separate careers wouldn't it I mean if I'm a private flight instructor or a private private flight pilot you there's two different revenues coming in per in a sense like a flight instructor is someone who can merely teach someone how to fly whereas in order to be in flight enjoy do you still need to have your base pilot certificate yes you need to have a commercial certificate that i think that i can fly or hired okay an airline career is kind of the top of the pilot tears but to get there a lot of people will actually fly instruct to build ours because ours is the key and all of aviation ours is what is important so by flight instructing I actually get my students hours it counts quartz mine so by flying with a student you know I'm teaching them but at the same time building touch on how a private pilot makes money I mean is that a private exclusive contract with someone if I want to run my my boss or whomever a citizen to Northern California and charge them a flat rate how does a private pilot make money private pilot actually won't make money because it's merely flying for your recreation is that even so let's say that and I had to fly to chino we ride to go out to chino for work every day the drive would take me probably like an hour whereas the flight would be probably 30 minutes okay so it just say don't want to do a traffic she can just fly there and back okay I can buy my own plane do whatever I want with it so private license would be the kind of just the someone who wants to fly from point A to point B in fact it's it actually illegal to run a group of people to say Vegas or something on your own time no as long as you as a private pilot as long as you're not getting paid for it as long as you pay your fair share who's the key what do you mean by that the FAA has said that you can't make money on the flight alright pilot okay so for a private pilot you know say your buddies and I wanted to go to Vegas and I could do the flight I just have to make sure that I pay my fair share of it I see okay now as a commercial pilot then I could have you pay me for it the commercial pilot is like the next year okay that's where you can have them actually pay you repay me for the plate and then it's whatever previously agreed upon amount beautiful okay so we would start out with the private level of pilot correct go up to the commercial and hopefully you can evolve into an instructor or maybe even possibly like we talked about united airlines right that would be the commercial correct some people they do get their commercial license and then all they do is they just have their own plane for example and they get their multi on top of that so now their commercial multi they can fly for higher animal okay they could own their own plane and just fly around town all day long they just build ours that way as well it just gets costly so the benefit of being a flight instructor is that I can actually build that time without me penguin okay so it's a way to teach someone else that apply but at the same time build up that time that would get me closer to an airline career or whatever I wanted to do good deal let's talk about the benefits for a moment obviously a private pilot wouldn't make any money at it but you would you know obviously have a great time doing it or get to get to see that the states or reverie flies but when you're a private pilot instructor what cut what type of dough can we expect to make or their benefits how does that work it really varies across the country I know in Massachusetts I think the fly inspector is there we're making somewhere around twelve dollars an hour okay I don't know if I can talk about pay scale here okay it is a little bit more but it's ballpark probably near that yeah i think the national average is somewhere around fifteen or sixteen dollars an hour okay as a flight instructor and then we get paid as we're with the student that's not a per hour and a general sense of I'm here from 10 to 5i get paid that whole time it's when I'm with a student and so I only get paid if I'm actually keeping something okay so in a sense we kind of an act like independent contractors but we're hired by south bay beach now if I evolve up to the commercial level and adore we expect them to me that depends on what you're flying as a commercial pilot multi-engine airplane let's say I actually went the instead of an airline crew out airline route I went to a corporate crap Oh Kyra I'm flying some business person around they can make significantly more because they're in the private sector so it really depends on what the business is providing them for flying okay good deal let's talk about before we wrap it up let's talk about what you love about this career that the pros and cons of this thing what do you live on rear well the most obvious is I'm in a cockpit all day long okay so I don't know who said it but there was a quote said that a cockpit is the best office in the world okay and so you know it's something I've always wanted to do when I was little they looked up and said I want to do that flat and so I went to college for it and loved it second I started so me the best part of the job is really flying around all day long the view can be great we not so great and I 1 i'm doing that day but i get to fly to new airports I guess who teach people how to fly and one of the most rewarding parts of that is probably seeing my student make the same mistakes I did okay and you know being there and watching them just do something that I learned long ago not to do yeah it's just one of those watching them evolve from knowing nothing about aviation to actually getting their license and of it changing their lives helping people you know having them join the club there's a lot of power that comes with having some keys and firing of your own plane and just filling wherever you want up yeah its freedom good deal let's talk about the cons anything you don't like with this career advice for young people and what to watch mom you know cons is the industry is very dependent on the economy you know the past few years has been very difficult and because people don't it's been hard on their wallet they've been having trouble paying your bills and all that stuff they can't afford or don't have the time and luxury to come down to the airport to fly you know aviation is a very expensive industry you know your typical flight lesson is going to cost you anywhere from 150 to 250 dollars for one lesson for about a two-hour period depending on what you're doing mm-hmm so cost is a big part of that mm-hmm and I don't want to discourage anyone but you know it is something to consider before okay starting is it ever scary you guys ever lose control that sucker and you know we always joke airs stand straight up or what maybe not your hair well I'm always enjoy but uh there's always the joke that you know one of my students going to try to do to me today no it's scary yeah that's serious part is you know just having your student you know go from complete control with all of the sons doing something that you kind of have to take over and today what Mike trolls and then okay just because there's two controls on each side so I everything that they can be interesting and it's just fixing whatever they try to get me into a good deal as a good instructor you should always be on it right away okay but if you're zoning out or whatever then they do something quick to get right back in there right on well thank you thank you so much do you want to have any advice for young people anything you want to say before we wrap it up um you know if flying is something you wanted to do then do it go to an airport get a demonstration flight see if you really want to do this and then go for you know there are college programs out there that you can do to learn fly so if it's something that you are considering in high school do a demonstration flight at your local airport if it's something you're considering in college do at our local airport it's one of those industries that you really have to see it to believe it and just go for it Brandon thank you thank you so much and you oh so now you know what it takes to become an airline pilot thanks for tuning in to California careers take care you

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